$1000 or 600-odd British pounds and whatever too many euros.
I'll try and put this as eloquently as I possibly can, piss off. PO with the price tag that is so beyond ridiculous that only morons and marketing knobs would think it is reasonable. I don't care if this rum is super, this kind of product is another step toward rum being moved out of the price range of the normal consumer.
The obvious glowing reviews, that are remarkably similar in wording and terminology, suck. These so called fans of rum are committing self harm by taking their piece of silver to pretend this crap is a good idea. What these fools are lacking is not only integrity but the common sense to realise they are damaging the industry they purport to love.
Any one who truly loves rum and wants to keep enjoying the variety and quality we now have should ignore any rum that is obviously priced too high and ignore the marketing.
Black Tot, Leck mich am Arsch
Black Tot, A pox on you all
Black Tot, A pox on you all
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I feel your pain...
Yes, it's expensive, but not nearly as expensive as Appleton's 50 ($5,000), and Bacardi's 150th Anniversary ($2,000). These two are the kind of rums that reviewers will even consider blowing the rep in order to be able to publish an "I'm so special" review of a rum that none of we 99 percenters will ever get to taste, and thus leaves their reviews untouched and uncritiqued. The only "reviewers" that get what amounts to a $300 shot to "taste" this rum are only those whose loyalty and softball reviews are unassailable.
To release these two rums in the face of the worldwide Great Recession is in the poorest of taste and I have no respect for either distiller, or for any of the faux reviewers who have the elephantine gonads to rub our tongues on them. Simply...
Insulting. Rums for the I've Got Mine crowd.
On the other hand, Black Tot represents the last few barrels of a real rum served to British Royal Navy sailors for hundreds of years, and is a real piece of real history. Although once commonplace, the very limited old supplies will never be again and have serious value for even ordinary drinkers. Accordingly, I find the price quite reasonable.
On Black Tot Day in about 1971 that era ended, and the remaining rum either sold privately and/or held for many years. It was not until Charles Tobias, a former US Marine much later convinced the British Government to share the secret formula with him on the condition that (a) it would never be revealed and (b) that a certain percentage of profits went to a fund supporting British seamen.
Today's Pusser's Blue Label is the result and is probably the only way today's rum lovers can come close to experience the only and only true historical rum. Still, the Black Tot offering represents the last of the real thing that once gone, we will never see again.
Trust me, I'm just an ordinary middle class, work a day guy, but who just happens to have a tremendous regard for tradition and history, and to be honest, I have come very close on several occasions to buying perhaps THE definitive historical rum.
Yes, it's expensive, but not nearly as expensive as Appleton's 50 ($5,000), and Bacardi's 150th Anniversary ($2,000). These two are the kind of rums that reviewers will even consider blowing the rep in order to be able to publish an "I'm so special" review of a rum that none of we 99 percenters will ever get to taste, and thus leaves their reviews untouched and uncritiqued. The only "reviewers" that get what amounts to a $300 shot to "taste" this rum are only those whose loyalty and softball reviews are unassailable.
To release these two rums in the face of the worldwide Great Recession is in the poorest of taste and I have no respect for either distiller, or for any of the faux reviewers who have the elephantine gonads to rub our tongues on them. Simply...
Insulting. Rums for the I've Got Mine crowd.
On the other hand, Black Tot represents the last few barrels of a real rum served to British Royal Navy sailors for hundreds of years, and is a real piece of real history. Although once commonplace, the very limited old supplies will never be again and have serious value for even ordinary drinkers. Accordingly, I find the price quite reasonable.
On Black Tot Day in about 1971 that era ended, and the remaining rum either sold privately and/or held for many years. It was not until Charles Tobias, a former US Marine much later convinced the British Government to share the secret formula with him on the condition that (a) it would never be revealed and (b) that a certain percentage of profits went to a fund supporting British seamen.
Today's Pusser's Blue Label is the result and is probably the only way today's rum lovers can come close to experience the only and only true historical rum. Still, the Black Tot offering represents the last of the real thing that once gone, we will never see again.
Trust me, I'm just an ordinary middle class, work a day guy, but who just happens to have a tremendous regard for tradition and history, and to be honest, I have come very close on several occasions to buying perhaps THE definitive historical rum.
Good points and thanks for re arranging my post to an easier read format.
However it's rum, I love rum but NO rum is worth $1000 dollars regardless of the romantic history attached . If it was in the original bottle, numbered, authentically from the first batch distilled, signed with a quill by the master distiller and splashed with a little blood from a sailor who was getting lashed whilst simultaneously drinking his wages... then maybe.
The Appletons is an obvious wank and not worth a mention but since we are on it. Just because a distillery decides to hang onto a few barrels of rum for 35 years longer than the the high point of the maturing rum doesn't add any sense to the price tag. It probably should be cheaper than their 25 year as it probably is astringent and tastes predominantly of wood. (assuming they haven't knocked the sharp edges of shit tastes off it with a bit of pre bottling smoothen(er™®) ).
But I'm shouting into the wind as, what is something worth? As much as the market is willing to pay for it. So as long as the world is inhabited by a large percent of walking brain dead then those fools and their money will be parted.
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Capn's Log: Actually this rum didn't come in bottle but rather in bulk containers which were then tapped twice a day by the purser, on board the ship. When there was still much more of it left, you could once buy the container for two or three thousand dollars. Now the supply is nearly gone, and the few remaining containers were appropriately bottled, and appear in a lovely bottle and case worthy of it. I believe (but am not sure) these bottles are numbered. Count me among the "brain dead" for this irreplaceable slice of history
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Consider yourself counted.
However it's rum, I love rum but NO rum is worth $1000 dollars regardless of the romantic history attached . If it was in the original bottle, numbered, authentically from the first batch distilled, signed with a quill by the master distiller and splashed with a little blood from a sailor who was getting lashed whilst simultaneously drinking his wages... then maybe.
The Appletons is an obvious wank and not worth a mention but since we are on it. Just because a distillery decides to hang onto a few barrels of rum for 35 years longer than the the high point of the maturing rum doesn't add any sense to the price tag. It probably should be cheaper than their 25 year as it probably is astringent and tastes predominantly of wood. (assuming they haven't knocked the sharp edges of shit tastes off it with a bit of pre bottling smoothen(er™®) ).
But I'm shouting into the wind as, what is something worth? As much as the market is willing to pay for it. So as long as the world is inhabited by a large percent of walking brain dead then those fools and their money will be parted.
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Capn's Log: Actually this rum didn't come in bottle but rather in bulk containers which were then tapped twice a day by the purser, on board the ship. When there was still much more of it left, you could once buy the container for two or three thousand dollars. Now the supply is nearly gone, and the few remaining containers were appropriately bottled, and appear in a lovely bottle and case worthy of it. I believe (but am not sure) these bottles are numbered. Count me among the "brain dead" for this irreplaceable slice of history
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Consider yourself counted.
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An interesting question...
An interesting question...
Good question. Although the question may be bit apocryphal, the basis of The Rum Project is based on a love for rum and its history and tradition. The five styles of rum are based on the early development of rum and its travels through the Caribbean.
The British and their Royal Navy, and the British Caribbean colonies were a key part of that history, with the daily tots of rum being a tradition from the early days of rum, right up to about 1971, when the tradtion ended - and officially declared Black Tot Day.
The official British Royal Navy Rum was a state secret, with the rum being exported to England where it was blended in a guarded warehouse. It represented what real rum tasted like for several hundred years. It's my belief that one cannot really understand rum unless one learns and appreciates the styles as they developed, and it goes without saying that the rum of the British Royal Navy is the only rum we have left that truly expresses a very important part of that history.
So the answer is:
Yes, I would create the proper and respectful time and place, and would indeed crack the bottle with Sue Sea and we would both taste and finally, review it. Of course we'd compare it to Pusser's Blue Label. Following that very special day, the remainder would be reserved for special occasions, perhaps annual, perhaps less. It would, of course occupy the top shelf of my glass spirits cabinet...
Good question. Although the question may be bit apocryphal, the basis of The Rum Project is based on a love for rum and its history and tradition. The five styles of rum are based on the early development of rum and its travels through the Caribbean.
The British and their Royal Navy, and the British Caribbean colonies were a key part of that history, with the daily tots of rum being a tradition from the early days of rum, right up to about 1971, when the tradtion ended - and officially declared Black Tot Day.
The official British Royal Navy Rum was a state secret, with the rum being exported to England where it was blended in a guarded warehouse. It represented what real rum tasted like for several hundred years. It's my belief that one cannot really understand rum unless one learns and appreciates the styles as they developed, and it goes without saying that the rum of the British Royal Navy is the only rum we have left that truly expresses a very important part of that history.
So the answer is:
Yes, I would create the proper and respectful time and place, and would indeed crack the bottle with Sue Sea and we would both taste and finally, review it. Of course we'd compare it to Pusser's Blue Label. Following that very special day, the remainder would be reserved for special occasions, perhaps annual, perhaps less. It would, of course occupy the top shelf of my glass spirits cabinet...