Everything that was Golden (State) is now white

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Everything that was Golden (State) is now white

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Apologies for being in absentia for so long, and I hope this little nugget makes up for that.

It seems that there is now an artisan distillery in operation in that sprawling smoggy section of California known colloquially as "El Lay", according to an article in Forbes, with a whiskey worthy of George Clooney, whatever THAT means (maybe only for the 1% ers? Obama buddies? Nevermind :lol: ). ANYhoo, the Greenbar Collective, makers of TRU organic Vodka and Gin, IXÁ Organic Tequila *strange, I thought "tequila" was an appellation of a distilled spirit made in the Tequila region of Mexico?*, CRUSOE Organic Rum *oh Cap'n, ever sampled either of these rums?*, FRUITLAB Organic Liqueurs and lastly, BAR KEEP Organic Bitters are trying their hand at whiskey.

First is "Slow Hand" white whiskey, to be followed later in 2013 with the cask-finished brown colored version. It's not clear if that is due to coloring added to the brown version or if it is entirely due to interaction with the cask. The image of the bottled white dog product has on it's label this interesting bit, "Aged less than 10 minutes in oak casks"

I also find it interesting that the author, David Hochman, asks partner in the Collective Litty Mathew about the aging affirmation on the label, if it was a joke and received this reply:
"Not at all! At one time, all American whiskey was white. Only during transportation in barrels did it pick up flavor and color. These days, white whiskey, or “white dog,” is usually unaged whiskey that’s sold to generate income from inventory that otherwise would sit around a couple years. The problem is, white dogs can be rough, and drinking them is often a philosophical exercise."
While there is some truth in her statement, obviously Ms. (I'm making an assumption here as there is a reference to a husband as the other partner...then again, this IS the "Land of Fruits and Nuts"...ahem) Mathew has never tried the excellent white dog from Buffalo Trace, or the bierschnaps made at Essential Spirits Alambic Distillery to the North of Los Angeles, in Mountain View, a city in the South Bay of the San Francisco Bay Area/ "Silicon Valley".

And while I am hopeful of a good product, the use of marketing-speak and the last 2 sentences of this statement by Mme. Mathews makes me think that, like the political state of what WAS "The Golden State", what appears to be gold is not so.
"Since we begin with good quality, flavorful, real ingredients — and that’s what organic farming gives us — we can make a really tasty whiskey even at the white dog stage. Organic grains produce more flavor. The brown will have even more flavor. As far as I know, we’re the only ones doing two mash builds – one for the white and one for the brown. It’s an unorthodox approach but the great thing is, Melkon and I don’t have a spirits tradition to protect. We’ve broken a lot of rules in creating our products and are simply focused on the final outcome — a very good cocktail."
Not a sipping whiskey, but merely a product to be mixed in a cocktail? :?

George Clooney, indeed :roll:
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I've never had a really good organic anything...

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I've never had a really good organic anything...


Nothing against "organic", but sadly big business has found a way to grease the regulations in such a way that the label of "organic" rarely means much more than a way to increase your prices and give the fools what they want. Real organic? I'm for it.

But I'm a red flag kinda guy.

Honest, I went to their website, and read their many, impressive product placements and media strokes. What I got was:
• It plants a tree for every bottle of TRU2 Gin and TRU Vodka sold. The company works directly with such non-profit groups as Sustainable Harvest International to plant new trees in tropical zones where they are cut down in the greatest numbers.

• TRU bottles use 25% less glass than average high-end spirits bottles.

• Labels are printed on tree-free corn fiber, using vegetable-based inks and are biodegradable.

• TRU also incorporates new, more easily recyclable PETG shrink capsules as opposed to more toxic PVC.

• Recyclable synthetic corks provide a tight seal and don’t break if bottles are frozen.

• TRU spirits are USDA certified organic and free of chemicals from field to bottle. Also, its flavors are from whole, organic ingredients, not extracts.

• And, its shipping boxes use 35% post-consumer waste and simply fold in on themselves to eliminate packing tape.
But about their stills? Fermentation? Aging, if any? Nada. Their whole gig is "organic", and sorry, that doesn't cut it. Trust me, if "organic" grains were that much more tasty, you know Scotland would have known long before these El-lay dudes recently promoted it. They talk about "16th century technique that pre- dates double distillation and requires a full two months to make." for their gin, but fail to show or specify them. Sounds a lot like bathtub techniques to me, sorry.

Not a single photo of their still, fermentation tanks, nothing. No proud master distiller, no gleaming copper, no "made by Carl" claims. Nada. Sorry, but I'm skeptical. Majorly...
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Perhaps the better name for their whiskey would be "Slow Hand Job"? :lol:
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Prairie Organic Vodka

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On the topic of unimpressive organic spirits, I'll offer one that I've been impressed with... Prairie Organic Vodka.

I've always believed that vodka is fairly tasteless except for the effects of the alcohol, so I didn't pay much attention to much more than the price. The over-priced and unimpressive Grey Goose Vodka may have changed that impression for many, but I find it to be less interesting than most vodkas and certainly not worth the expense.

I have an occasional Black Russian, so I like to have some vodka on hand. After reading comments from the Cap'n on Brinley Coffee Rum, which I've had no success in finding, I started exploring better alternatives to Kahlua. The only improvement I've found is Santa Teresa Araku, which is a bit less sweet and has a mildly improved coffee flavor for a moderate price premium. This got me thinking about the vodka and I decided to do some research. The experts say that the water used to dilute the distillate makes a big difference and introduces most of the flavors found in vodka. The other difference is the grain used, but at 95% ABV the effects of the grain are mostly suppressed. I set out to try many different vodkas and, with some great deals at Total Wine in Orlando, I was able to try several in 50ml bottles (the selection there was amazing!). My samples included: Absolut, Belvedere, Crystal Head, Grey Goose, Ketel One, Sobieski, and Stolichnaya. When I returned home to Texas, I added Tito's and Prairie Organic to the collection and sampled them all. :shock:

The results were surprising, at least to me. The only vodkas that offered any sort of interesting flavor were: Crystal Head, Prairie Organic and Ketel One. The rest were essentially flavorless and uninteresting, but these had a botanical quality that reminded me of gin. With that discovery, I surmised that these would make any vodka martini much more enjoyable, not to mention my occasional Black Russian. I was right and I'm glad that I went to all of the trouble. The Crystal Head was superb, but at $40 for 750ml, it was way too expensive. The Prairie Organic was second best and, at $30 for 1.75L, a great deal as well. I highly recommend this organic small batch vodka that is distilled from corn raised by three family farmers in southwestern Minnesota. Don't just take my word for it, though. It won Double Gold at San Francisco in 2009 and 2011, scored a 92 from Wine Enthusiast and a 90 from Beverage Tasting Institute.

By the way, I'm not sure that the organic characteristic contributes to the flavor and quality of this spirit, but these guys definitely make a quality organic product that is fantastic. You won't be disappointed with this one... I promise!
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