Similar tasting rums to El Dorado?

[Dai]

Is there a similar tasting rum to Eldorado 15 (Demerara) that has less of a burnt oak after taste to it. El Dorado 12 maybe? Pussers?

The above question is related to my observations here:
http://rumproject.com/rumforum/viewtopic.php?t=12

[Capn Jimbo]

Really good question...


El Dorado is quite unique (although they are becoming less so) by the wide variety of stills they used and in cases, still use. These include at least nine or 12 different old stills - wooden, metal, pot, column, etc. This was due to their poverty. Since the El Dorados have grown in popularity though, they are using more and more column product from newer stills.

But here is a chart that is reasonably current:





Based on this chart, it would appear the 12 might be a good bet, as it is based on the same dominant 2-column Coffey, but without the presumably more potent wooden pot Mourant still. It will also have spent less time in the wood.

Better yet, try the 8 year - same 2-column metal base but also a strong element of the wooden Coffey which may suggest the Mourant of the 15 and again, less time in the wood. As far as Pusser's, this too is based on one of the wooden stills but we don't know which one - the Coffey or the Port Mourant. Still all who wish to understand rum must, must, must learn Pusser's well.

We've been at this for years and reviews aside, we must admit that our most purchased, personal pleasure rums are, in order: Pussers, Barbancourt Five Star, MGXO and Seales' Ten Year.

Go for the 8 year AND Pussers - both are excellent. BTW, da'rum is particularly suited to answer this question as he has actually spent some time making his own El Dorado based blends to approximate Pussers - da'rum?

[da'rum]

Any younger Demeraran rum is going to be an answer to what you are looking for. Although , as Jimbo pointed out, the El Dorado's are produced from different stills I believe there is a distinct Demeraran quality that is common in them all.

Pussers would be the perfect answer to your question, it has a BIG Demeraran profile with a mix of rums from Trinidad and Jamaica I think. Pussers does not have any particular oak or chharred oak taste to it (I assume you are talking about the smoky trait of Ed15).

DDL id such a prolific distillery, it sells it's stock to many craft bottlers (ie Bristol..que JaRiMi). There are more and more offerings on the net if you look. You are in a good position Dai as in the EU you can source a huge variety. (At least for the time being).

My immediate recommendation would be buy a bottle of Pusser's preferably the 75% if you can find it.

Tell us what you think, I'd be interested.

[Dai]

Pussers does not have any particular oak or chharred oak taste to it (I assume you are talking about the smoky trait of Ed15).

Yes talking about the charred oak smoky trait. My current bottle seems to have less of it. Which is more appealing to me. Going into Cardiff on Saturday and one of the pubs does Pussers, so shall be trying it before I buy a bottle.

What about Banks rum?

[da'rum]

Sorry mate, I haven't tried Banks.

Just looking at it now I'd say that's an entirely different monster than what we are now on about. It could be, looks as though, it would be a nice rum. However I'm not so sure on how similar it would be to the +10's of the Ed range.

Depending on your budget you may find something here.

http://www.classicrum.com/

[Capn Jimbo]

When is a "rum" not a rum?


When it's "Banks 5".

Banks 5 does not refer to the alleged age, but to the notion that this rum somehow is a blend of 20 rums from 5 islands. Five islands? Maybe. Twenty rums? Don't think so. What we do know for sure is that one of the components is not a rum but an arrack?


Arracks that you say? Arrack is a mongrel of a spirit - as per the Wiki:

...made from either the fermented sap of coconut flowers, sugarcane, grain (e.g. red rice) or fruit, depending upon the country of origin. The clear distillate may be blended, aged in wooden barrels, or repeatedly distilled and filtered depending upon the taste and color objectives of the manufacturer.

Now the bottle wants us to believe that he gathered 20 rums - and arrack - from five islands, then aged them to some unknown degree, then filtered it to remove the color. Is this mooseshit or do I have the animal species wrong? You decide.

As far as this being an alternative to El Dorado's fine rums, not.

[Dai]

When is a "rum" not a rum?


When it's "Banks 5".

Banks 5 does not refer to the alleged age, but to the notion that this rum somehow is a blend of 20 rums from 5 islands. Five islands? Maybe. Twenty rums? Don't think so. What we do know for sure is that one of the components is not a rum but an arrack?


Arracks that you say? Arrack is a mongrel of a spirit - as per the Wiki:

...made from either the fermented sap of coconut flowers, sugarcane, grain (e.g. red rice) or fruit, depending upon the country of origin. The clear distillate may be blended, aged in wooden barrels, or repeatedly distilled and filtered depending upon the taste and color objectives of the manufacturer.

Now the bottle wants us to believe that he gathered 20 rums - and arrack - from five islands, then aged them to some unknown degree, then filtered it to remove the color. Is this mooseshit or do I have the animal species wrong? You decide.

As far as this being an alternative to El Dorado's fine rums, not.

Bit of a mix up there Jimbo (probably my fault) I was refering to these rums from Banks DIH

http://www.thewhiskyexchange.com/B-339- ... ilter=true

[da'rum]

Another one I haven't tried, I am going to go out on a limb here and guess that there probably would be similarities their but with the write up that includes 'Oomph' and 'vanilla fudge', I'd take a stab at a very sugary sipper there. I could be wrong, I normally am.

[Dai]

Another one I haven't tried, I am going to go out on a limb here and guess that there probably would be similarities there but with the write up that includes 'Oomph' and 'vanilla fudge', I'd take a stab at a very sugary sipper there. I could be wrong, I normally am.

Having only ever having tasted Eldorado 15 I wouldn't know what other Demerara rums taste like. I don't go by tasting notes I don't find them to be very accurate (not for my taste buds). That's why I usually try a sample first before buying a rum.

[Dai]

As stated in an earlier post went to Cardiff (Revolution De Cuba) and tried Pussers and Edorado12. All I can say is both are very nice but preferred the ED12 over the Pussers.

I think it would take two or three glasses to get into the Pussers but, the ED12 was a lot smoother and more to my liking.

Revolution De Cuba has quite a selection of rum:
Pussers: Blue label & the 15
Edorado: 12 & 5
Havana Club: Meastro and the usual 3 &7 year
Pyrat XO
Matusalem: 15, Platino, and one other in the range
Mount Gay: XO & eclipse
Santa teresa: 1796 and one other

and a few more but since the rugby was on didn't get much of a chance to see what else they had. They have more rums than the website gives credit. I was surprised by the selection.
http://www.revoluciondecuba.com/bars

[da'rum]

but since the rugby was on

30-3

[Dai]

but since the rugby was on

30-3

Ye hell of a game didn't think Wales would beat them by that much.

[mule1rider]

Trader Vic recommends substituting spiced rum for demerara rum when you don't have the later. I know this hearsay for this board but there it is.

[jankdc]

What about Flor de Cana? Either their 12 or 18?

Or for that matter Ron Barcelo? I actually have both and should compare them sometime.

There are a number of decently reviewed rums in the Demereran section.

[da'rum]

No Jankdc, FdC isn't much like the ED's. Agricole for starters and a much dryer body and finish.